About

Nilesh Oak holds BS & MS in Chemical Engineering and Executive MBA. He is interested in Astronomy, Archeology, Geology, Genetics, Quantum Mechanics, Economics, Ancient narratives and Philosophy.

He published his first book, ‘When did the Mahabharata War Happen?:The Mystery of Arundhati’ in 2011.

He published his second book, ‘The Historic Rama – Indian Civilization at the end of Pleistocene’ in 2014.

Both books are available in paperback and in Kindle on Amazon.

He is in the process of completing his third book, ‘Bhishma Nirvana’.

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      • Dear sir
        I am ardent follower of date of Ramayana Mahabharata and Indus valley civilization. I don’t know how to honour your research. I have three question 1.In which time scale dies Ivc fit in. 2. There is a mention of two solar eclipse in a single day during the war. 3. When arundatti was walking before vasista was agastya the Pole star in the south.

      • Thank you.

        1. Archaeologically excavated IVC evidence is pre, post and contempoary to Mahabharata times (5561 BCE)
        2. There is NO mention of two solar eclipses in a single day during the war
        3. No, Agastay was the pole star around 12000 BCE. Arundhati walking ahead of Vasishtha was from ~10,000 BCE through ~4500 BCE.

        Warm regards,
        Nilesh Oak

    • Dear Sri. Nilesh Oak,

      While casually checking about Vashishta and Arundhati (Mizar and Alcor)
      in Wikipedia

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizar_and_Alcor

      it is seen that this is really a 6-star system.

      Please see the last 2 paragraphs of the article with the link given above.

      Question: Does this really matter ?

      Also, the practical difficulties of observing the Mizar-Alcor pair is dealt with in
      the reference above.

      Could you please comment?

      Thanking you,

      Yours faithfully,

      J. Viswanathan.

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    • Dear NIleshji,
      I am a senior citizen who has just disengaged from a survival-led professional involvement . I watch your videos and feel a rush of pride when you so painstakingly put forward your breakthrough insights with such humility. I will be involving myself on the Indic revival framework at a grass root level. I share my thoughts on these issues with all my friends and recommend all the luminaries involved in this gigantic thought to them. I need to write to you and ask for general guidance and specific inputs if feasible. Can I have your email id please ? I can provide my personal details on hearing from you. Look forward to your response.

      Regards
      A.L.Sundaresan

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    • The Sun through flares and other interactions has slowed or even stopped the Earths rotation, as observed through recent science and in past cultures. American Natives and Chinese that I can remember referenced. Dos the Earth some how catch up rotation lost, or can this be reconciled with past observations.
      I’m not academic so my quetion may be a nonsence.
      Greatly appreciate all you work and that of your colleagues.
      oto.

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      • The Earths rotation is not a constant, several times in the past few thousand years reference has been made in many cultures of the rotation slowing down or even reversing briefly.
        Also I’m ofthe suspicion that the great cycles echos a galactic magnetic cycle of which we are about to experience, plausibly a micro nova. See Susipious Observers they also have a Youtube channel..
        Kali is the depiction of death a corpse left to rot black with bulging eyes and swollen tounge. Its not the end of the world just the count down to the plausible magnetic excusrion from the center of the galaxy.
        My Question was does Veidc practice allow for roatational variations. even solar flares can slow the earth briefly. so this bing the case using stellarium for example to back date positions of earth is not wholly accurate to any precise value..
        Im not a debater to Ive mixed much in my above statement /question.

    • Nileshji I have a question regarding missing link about evaluation the ancient way. Ramayana happened before Mahabharat . In Ramayana there mentioned Puspak vaiman equate to modern world air plane. Then after in Mahabharata there is no mention of vaiman. So people lost the technology in between period. Also there wasn’t any mention of motor car in Ramayana also as evaluation required step by step evaluation. From horse cart to rath to direct Puspak vaiman but no mention of any movable cart with the help of any engine or kinetic machine. So is it not a missing link here? In modern evaluation there human walked then run then bicycle then motorcycle then car then plane then rocket

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    • Argument with AIT believer: Need proof of timeline of Mohenjo-Daro, Harappa & Rakhigarhi civilization specially in context of linguistic proof with respect to Sanskrit. Why no reference of Sanskrit in these relics when Rig Veda, Ramayana, Mahabharata existed earlier?

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  3. Nilesh ji:

    Namaskar! Is there a way to contact you? We would like to invite you to deliver a talk in Delhi and Bangalore on the dating of the Mahabharata and the Ramayana (separate talks), whenever you are visiting India (if i am not mistaken you live in the US).

    I run both a tech business and a non-profit — https://www.facebook.com/srijanfoundation/?fref=ts One of the projects called the “India Civilization Project” of our non-profit invites speakers connected with the revival and revitalization of the Indian civilization; we record the videos; and publicise them on social media. Here’s the YouTube channel where we publish our videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3nhAUpe7aBm1rFCBgoWWcA — if you notice atleast one talk by Sanjeev Sanyal really went viral. We’re just getting started, and are determined to spread the message of all our inspired (and inspiring) speakers.

    Would appreciate an email from you to me. I am reachable at: “four [DOT] pursuits [AT] gmail [DOT] com”. Looking forward to hear from you.

    Regards,
    Rahul

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  4. When I was a student (during 1978-79), I had a book on Ancient Indian History with chronological events (from Vedic times to Modern India), in which the author arrived at date of Ramayana some 7 lac years BC and Mahabharata about 4 lac years BC (I vaguely remember the dates) based on astrological / astronomical calculations. The best part of the book was it had listed out the chronology of events running into several pages, from Vedic times to Birth of independent India, with names of Kings / dynasties/lineage etc.

    Another interesting part of the book is that it argued with proofs that the Indian King who fought Alexander the Great, was Chandra Gupta of the Gupta dynasty and not Chandra Gupta Maurya of the Mauryan dynasty.

    I lost the book and am still searching for the book, but unable to find it online / in bookstalls. I don’t remember the title of the book or author’s name.

    I would recommend that you find out the book and read it. You would find it very useful and a better guide / mentor to you. Perhaps, you may re-do your calculations to arrive at correct dates based on astronomical calculations given in Puranas and Itihasas.

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    • Why don’t you find out the book you are referring to and re-read. And then explain it to me and others in what way it is useful. This would also allow you to compare claims of that book with that of mine.

      Alternately, you can test and re-verify calculations of my book and find out their worth. You may critique them based on your verification or lack thereof.

      Thank you and look forward to your input and feedback.

      Regards.

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      • Have you received the book from him? Now I am more curious about what sort of “astrological/astronomical calculations” this book he mentioned uses!

      • Hello, how are you?
        I am Nitash sharma from Winnipeg Manitoba Canada. Back home from india state of Punjab.

        I need your guidance for my kids. They are 12 & 10 years old.

        I want to provide them Vedic Knowledge, Astronomy, Sanskrit Language.
        Please guide me what is the best platform for them. Should I move to India for it or it is possible here in Canada?

        Thanks and Regards
        Have a nice day

      • Let the whole family begin with the study of the Bhagavad Gita. And Bhagavad Gita will guide you all with the next appropriate steps.

      • Hello Rama Krishna,
        Thanks for your insert of Classical works of Pandit Kota Venkatachalam. I like to focus and rely on the 1800’s and early 1900s works of indian scholars, who were closer to our Shastras than anyone in modern times.

        Your two other Telugu Archives come up with ‘Not found’ error. Please post good links if you have them.

        -Chandra Mouli

    • Shri Viswanatha Satyanarayana (Kavi Samrat) has written a series of novels based on history called Purana Vaira Grandhamala in Telugu. In these works he mentions regarding the confusion of Maurya dynasty Chandra Gupta and Gupta dynasty Chandra Gupta. He also mentions the discrepancies in the history books which we read these days. The series of books totalling twelve in number are written during the period 1959 to 1963.

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  5. You and your readers might find this of interest:

    In this heavily researched work, extensively drawing from the Quran, authentic hadith, principal sufi works and biographies, along with numerous other documents, we discover an account of Islam – based on both its authenticated history and especially its psychology – that precludes its alleged origin. And as we examine the primary Islamic texts, along with two national examples (one of which, of course, is “Pakistan”) exhibiting the same origin, the real occult creator of Islam becomes clear. In addition to exposing the myth of Islam’s revelatory origin, we intensively examine the actual doctrine of the heretical – to Islam, yet at the same time viciously anti-Hindu – sufi ‘saints’, juxtaposing their intermediate (as openly admitted by them) mystic realizations with the Consciousness of the Rishis and Yogin. Finally, we return to the Islamic scripture to again comment on the absolute impossibility of any “Reformation”, and outline the ongoing centres of control by which the Asura of Falsehood continues to savagely impose himself.

    Click to access touched-by-an-asura.pdf

    https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/02/11/touched-by-an-asura/
    http://docdro.id/pK0tdPF

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  7. Hi,
    I am a big fan of Mr. Nilesh Oaks work and have watched many of his lectures on youtube. I wanted to ask what is the accepted explanation for the presence of “monkeys” in Ramayana. They are a core aspect of the story in Ramayana. Were they a different species of humans, like the neanderthals?
    Thank you,
    Best Regards,
    Ritvik

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    • They were human begins. That is all. Do read ‘Wastav Ramayana’ or its english transltion by Dr. P V Vartak. checkout at BookGanga or other sources.

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    • I am also for a Rational approach to the Ithihasas & Puranas. But we must not miss out the truth by resorting to our limited understanding. For example Humans can attain levitation by practicing certain Yoga Kriya. At one point of time all the apes had such ability. To convert Levitation jump of Hanuman to Swimming the present Gulf of Mannar by Hanuman is a Joke. We should not forget that we are living Kali Yuga , where the physical and yogic powers of Humans have gone down drastically.

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      • I am not sure what is your frustration is about. We should not miss out on the truth. And limited understanding is all we have to work with. If you consider some theory as joke (e.g. P V Vartak referring to Hanuman swimming… BTW, He also refers to him as flying. This means his theory is not because he sees flying as impossible) then present your own theory and provide the evidence.

        I do not know which Yuga I live in, but if you insist that it is Kali yuga, so be it. I have nothing against or for that claim of yours, it is simply not useful to me.

        Lastly, regarding the claim of human levitation. I have not seen one levitating nor I have seen an objective proof of it. That does not mean it is not true. However, those who insist on it and also want others to be convinced of it may want to demonstrate objective validation of it.

        Capisce?

  8. Ritvik –
    ” Ravana, was also a great devotee of Lord Shiva. It is said that he worshiped Lord Shiva with such devotion that Lord Shiva being very pleased with him granted him of being more powerful than all the Devas, ganas and yakshas. In his arrogance, Ravana did not ask Lord Shiva to become more powerful than humans or [to his embarrassment] from vanaras….[It was for this reason that Lord Vishnu incarnated as Rama a human to destroy him…] ”

    That was the reason Devas got incarnated as Vanaras. These vanaras are actual monkeys. Not Humans. Also Ravana’s Lanka was on equator on the same meridian as Ujjain. The Setu – was 100 yojanas (= 900 km.) from kanya kumari to Lanka. You’ll find a Mahendra giri on the southern tip of Kerala, from where Hanuman must have jumped to Lanka.

    The present setu must be of recent ( 10 – 20 thousand years before our times ) origin built by some Tamil kings ( extending over few centuries ) either to build a Surface aceeasi to Sri Lanka or to wardoff the threat of Tsunami to Tamil Nadu Coast or both.

    To ascribe the present Seru to Rama is to not understand the Enormous Power of the vanaras and also that of Ravanna.

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    • The points about the location of Mahendra giri, location of Lanka in the context of reference line that goes through Ujjain has much truth in it. Ms. Rupa Bhaty has done 10+ years of serious research on this subject and her work would come out in the near future.

      Rama Krishna’s thoughts about current Setu are therefore also valid.

      There are many other factual things mentioned by Rama Krishna ji, however, somewhere the facts are mixed with specultions (Vanaras as monkeys) Of course, speculations are good, but in the absence of evidence, they are of no to negative value.

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    • Hi, Rama, sorry for the late reply. One theory I have read suggests that the Vanaras may belong to a different species of humans – the Neanderthals . I have not yet aquired an english copy of Vastav Ramayana though

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  9. I liked your video notes on Timeline of 17k plus. I agree with you. I am interested in the Prehistory of South Asia and I have done some in depth scholarly work on it, which I would like to share with you. It will appeal you and may be of mutual interest.
    Would your please be my Guru, mentor, and also a critique? I will appreciate it.
    Thanks.
    DN

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  10. Dear Mr Nilesh,

    I am fascinated by your research and find it very logical and scientific in approach. The date of the Mahabharata war is indeed an important topic to restore the narrative on ancient Indian history.

    I wanted to ask if you have considered the Aihole inscriptions which date the Bharata war that can be interpreted in 3rd millennium or 5th millennium BC.

    Thanks
    Pradeep

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    • I do not respond to her writings because of the lack of personal integrity issues she has exhibited during our initial face to face interaction.

      Do read what she has written and feel free to post any portion of it that makes sense to you. Then you and I can have discussion.

      Thank you.

      Nilesh Oak

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    • I attempted multiple time to engage her to discuss her claims In social media. She jumps into a dogmatic diatribe and nonsensical and illogical arguments at a drop of a hat. If you are on twitter, you may search for my tweets and her responses.

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  13. There seems to be no need to engage her.

    Just make a post linked to her article and provide your rebuttals point by point in your own blog.

    People can then follow up, after so many presentations and books, your followers deserve at least that much, to be sure of the veracity of your claims.

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    • Also, these challenges serve as a good resource to create FAQs to answer future detractors.

      That would then serve as a good tool for your followers to better understand your work.

      Also, for an adjunct asst prof ……………. this web presence needs to be better organized, one that can bring together all your web footprints – past, present and future.

      Do you publish in peer reviewed journals …. publication list?

      We would appreciate a post on your differences with Shrikanth Talageri?

      Can you both consider working together to resolve these issues for the greater good?

      I think it would help to have a joint project involving
      N oak – S Talageri – R Vedam – S Kak

      You guys should consider a National Geographic documentary.

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  14. Dear Nilesh, the wiki page “https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_units_of_time” have errors. Example the Nimisha value is shown has 36 seconds. Appreciate if you can correct it for accuracy and authenticity. Thanks

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  15. Dear Sir
    What would you recommend as an authentic book / online edition of the Vedas, with meaning in English with unbiased explanation backed up by evidences such as yours or Shrikant Talageri’s?

    Regards
    Admin, GnanaBoomi.com

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    • In the same vein … did you listen to Shrikanth Talageri’s latest chat in Sham Sharma show? … in that, his contention against your claim for the date of the Mahabharatha is that spoked wheel did not come in until about 2000 BC …. so how come Mahabharatha happened in 5000 BC? While your focus has been archaeo-astronomy .. I believe you need to acquire additional skillsets / collaborate with those that have the required skillsets … to address these issues …. right?

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  16. Namaste,

    I am a fan of your work.

    I would like to be informed about Indian and world history, also the fundamentals of research, etc that you keep mentioning in your lectures. Could you please give me a recommendation of books for the same.

    Thank you
    Satwik

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      • Thank you for your reply.

        What do you think of the book

        ”The Indo-European Controversy: Facts and Fallacies in Historical Linguistics by Asya Pereltsvaig and Martin W Lewis ”

        Thank you

      • What are the key claims made in the book? What empirical evidence was provided in support of these claims?

        What I think is irrelevant. What the logical inference drawn, based on empirical evidence, is all that matters.

        Thanks.

  17. Hi, Saw your Ramayan/Mahabharat dating video on Srijan Talks channel. Question: If these epics are real history and not fantasy then how do we explain ten headed ravan or hanuman like ape who could grow and shrink or agneepariksha ?

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      • प्लवङ्गप्रवरैर्दृष्टः प्लवने कृतनिश्चयः |
        ववृधे रामवृद्ध्यर्थम् समुद्र इव पर्वसु || ५-१-१०

        10. dR^ishhTaH = being seen; plavaN^gapravaraiH = by best of Vaanaras; kR^ita nishchayaH = with a strong resolve; plavane = to fly; vavR^idhe = grew; raama vR^iddhyarthaM = for Rama’s success; samudraH iva = like the ocean; parvasu = on full moon days.

        With all the Vaanaras seeing, Hanuma decided to fly and like an ocean swelling on full moon days, grew for Rama’s success.

        Shloka from valmiki ramayana , where Hanuman has increased his size and about to fly.

        Can you please mention any other shlok which says that he was not of gigantic size and not going to fly.

  18. Namaskar Nileshji,

    I have seen a few of your youtube videos and came out a little more learned or rather clarified of my doubts.
    You have established in my mind atleast that these are not “mythologies” as popularly known world over, but historical records in an Indian style of writing and format. Appreciate your lifelong efforts and also congratulate you to achieve what you have achieved in a lifetime.
    While i think of reading your books for better understanding, it scares me just thinking about the complex and technical information captured of various sciences in your books. Wonder whether i will ever pick up even one of your book and read it fully. I am sorry to say this, but its a fact.
    Coming to the reason and context of me writing to you is my 15 year old daughter, and ofcourse every child of a certain age.
    1. How children or teenagers can read your books which they can comprehend and know about Indian history with scientific data and also be able to spread that infomation with conviction to others around them.
    2. How can this, maybe re-written in a style or format and language simple enough for readers not having a background of science, can enjoy your research.

    My apologies upfront for raising questions even before reading anything because i believe that thats how most of the people are in todays times.

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    • Thank you for your comments and appreciation.

      My books have been read by students as young as 7th grade and they have understood them. Granted, this takes efforts. My books have been read by 86+ years old and have not only understood by them but deeply appreciated + they have critiqued them.

      All your other points are indeed relevant but would require a longer answer.

      My goal is to encourage all readers to increase their comprehension ability and read my books in the original. Multiple readings are required.

      Happy reading.

      Nilesh Oak

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  19. Hi nilesh..

    I came here after seeing your video about the Ramayana taking place around 13,000 years old…I was particularly interested as I chant the sundara kandam daily and am a rama and hanuman bhakt…In the sundara kandam..hanuman mentions four tusked elephants guarding lanka…similarly trijata mentions 4 tusked elephants in her dream as well… based on this link, https://time.com/2987051/gomphothere-clovis-elephant/ .. 4 tusked elephants were alive on this earth 13,000 years ago….thought of sharing with you..

    Thanks,
    Srikanth

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      • I have watched some of your other videos, including three with Dr. Pandit.
        Thank you very much for this enlightening presentation summarizing many of your contributions. I could not catch up with you regarding relevance of Quantum Mechanics slide in there.

        How to address Indian dogmas which have crept in such an old civilization due to many factors? A few, 2/3 ideas may be welcome.

  20. – Pranams for all your contributions – past, present and future!

    debate in sangam – gr8 .. articulate presentation … kudos!

    Wish list
    – please focus more on your youtube channel
    – please invite and interview other experts – your sense of logic will help break down topics and make novel connections to Bharatiya history
    – wishlist of guests – subash kak, prof c k raju, prof k ramasubramanian – IITM, your own Anil Narayanan, shrikanth talegeri, raakigarhi experts, Richard carrier – https://www.richardcarrier.info , Subramanian swamy, KK Muhammad, Ashish Dhar, Sai Deepak, Vishal agrawal – http://indiafacts.org/author/vishal-agarwal/ , K Elst, Meenakshi Jain, Shefali Vaidya, Abhijit Iyer Mitra, Makarand paranjpe
    -Wishlist of topics – ancient indian astronomy, math, economics, medicine, vaiseshika, calculus origins, navigation and ancient connections with Africa, far east – japan, russia, linguistics, Samskritam and other ancient Bharatiya languages, our forgotten/lost texts – eg pingala sutra and fibonacci series

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  22. You recently spoke about celtic river names mirroring indian ones, could you please provide a few links for us to click on? I couldn’t locate any. Pranams!

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  23. Too busy … I shall await your response

    Given all the work you have done, can’t you convert this into a PhD … may be Dr Vemsani could guide?

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  24. Namaste Sir !
    First of all many many heartfelt thanks and congratulations for your ground-breaking research works on Soorya Siddhanta, Mahabharta and Ramayana !
    I was pleasanrtly shocked at the first reading of your books / watching your videos and completely sold on the second time. You have got a unique style of presenting your work by embedding the technical facts in an engaging story which makes an average reader like me understand and remember it easily.

    Particularly in the 5th chapter of the book “When did Mahabharata war happen” the Fall of Abhijeet, the mention and correlation to Robert Bacon’s story with Fall of Abhijeet story from the MBH was absolutely amusing !!!

    Thank you and All The Best To You And Your Work ! 🙏❤

    Wish You and Your Loved ones a Happy and Prosperous Diwali ! ✨🎉

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    • Thank you. I dare say you are the first one to comprehend, appreciate, and enjoy the aptness and correlation between Roger Bacon’s story and ‘Fall of Abhijit’. Most well known decorated Mahabharata researchers showed either utter indifference or pure lack of comprehension of 99% of what I presented in my books. So I assumed that if they cannot comprehend it, what chance ordinary reader has.

      Since then I have been proven wrong in my assumption. Children 9-year-old and folks with no clue about Mahabharata end up reading my books, experience ah-ha moments, and write to me from most unusual places: – islands inside the arctic circle, Swamis, and Yogis from the Himalayan ashram, prisoners from the US prisons, engineers, medical practitioners, pilots, and painters.

      Thank you for refreshing my memory. In fact, I must admit that after reading your message, I went back to the book and read the 5th chapter, again. Do read my blogs and comments sections related to ‘Fall of Abhijit’ where I have made further improvements. The essence remains the same (~14500 BCE) but the explanation is more consistent.

      Shubh Deepavali
      Nilesh Oak

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      • Wow ! Thank you so much for your detailed note sir. It made my Diwali morning more special and happier !! 🙏❤
        I am going through your blog as well and it is really an enriching and valueable experience to know more about the subject from you.

        Once again Thank You and Happy Diwali !

  26. Nileshji
    How do you explain missing link in technology about evaluation the ancient way. Ramayana happened before Mahabharat . In Ramayana there mentioned Puspak vaiman equate to modern world air plane. Then after in Mahabharata there is no mention of vaiman. So people lost the technology in between period. Also there wasn’t any mention of motor car in Ramayana also as evaluation required step by step evaluation. From horse cart to rath to direct Puspak vaiman but no mention of any movable cart with the help of any engine or kinetic machine. So is it not a missing link here? In modern evaluation there human walked then run then bicycle then motorcycle then car then plane then rocket

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    • ¤
      I believe that Ramayana took place in the TretaYuga of 24th Mahayuga of Vaivasvata Manvantara. We are currently in kali yuga of 28th Mahayuga of the same Manvantara. In every kaliyuga mechanical inventions will take place & at the end of kaliyuga such inventions will vanish. These developments are always cyclical not linear

      ¤

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  27. That’s not the point I was making. My point is the gap in technology of transportation development. From cheiriat to viman technology missing kinetic driven vehicle in Ramayana yug and Mahabharata yug. How do u explain that missing link

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      We R dealing with not thousands of years of Human History but Yugas. These Technologies Develop and Vanish within Hundreds or a few Thousand years. More Gigantic Cosmic Phenomena R described in Puranas , like Disappearance of Ocean & Descent Of Ganga ( Which Refilled d Oceans ). However King Salva of Sindhu was Having a Vimana . Those Vimanas R Not Run by Kinetic Power but Some other Technology

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      • Agreed but technology also evolved step by step. You can’t have people ridding camel and then straight fly in airplane during Technology evolution. Human started standing then walking then running then riding then flying. Ramayana technology evolved from riding animals to flying in vaiman. No mention of technology developed to ride like automobiles.

  28. hi nilesh oak,
    I like your explanations of the history of India. i had a doubt when i first watched mahabharatha. Krishna removes sun from the sky inorder for the jayadratha to come forward so that arjuna can kill him and keep up his vow. I thought that krishna removing sun is it a reference to solar eclipse. I tried to find out the date and whether a solar eclipse existed during mahabharatha war. can you please tell me if it is indeed a solar eclipse.
    Regards
    Aditya

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  29. Nileshji,
    The Parker Solar Probe is a NASA Space Probe launched in 2018 with the mission of making observations of the outer corona of the Sun.
    What is ancient Indian scripture says about Sun ? Was there any detailed study conducted in ancient Indian civilization?

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  30. Please Nilesh I am a 73 yr old fool from USA. By mercy only Srila Prabhupada pulled me out with knowledge. I find your presentation both informative and inspiring.

    There was recently a conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter on 20 Dec but no one could predict what would be the result or why The cause for this was that no one could find any similar happenings all the way back 400 years. You are expert in this field could you enlighten??

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    • Hare Krishna Prabhu

      I did not understand your question. Conjunctions are rare but still predictable, so I am not sure exactly what you are asking me to respond to.

      Warm regards,
      Nilesh Oak

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  31. Namaskar Nilesh ji,
    I have listened to your talks on youtube and found them very informative yet complex to explain it to others.
    If only I knew the origin of Tamil language with respect to Sanskrit, I will be able to explain it to my friends that Tamil (Sangam) literature is not older than Sanskrit literature.
    Also, why only Marathi and Hindi took up Devnagari script from Sanskrit and other languages did not take the same script (like Gujrati, Bengali, Gurumukhi, Tamil, Telegu, Malayalam, etc. have entirely different scripts).
    What may be the possible reasons for this variation in the scripts?
    Warm Regards,
    Aditi

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  32. Dear Nileshji,

    Sir, my name is Sreekanth, since my young age i have been trying to understand the gap created in our history by Britishers and others Europeans. I am very much inspired by your research and talks.

    If Chandra Gupta of Gupta Dynasty is contemporary of Alexander what about the story of Chanakya and rakshasa the prime minister of Nanda and the battles fought by Chandra Gupta with the Greeks in ghandhara territory who was he a Gupta or a Mauryan.

    I would be happy if you can clarify on this

    Thank You

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    • Thank you.

      Unfortunately, I have not found any evidence, empirical and objectively testable for most events post 2000 BCE. Therefore, as of now, most of my research is restricted to events pre 2000 BCE.

      Warm regards,
      Nilesh Oak

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      • Dear Nilesh,
        I read a description of Rama. one of them describes him as ajanubahu which is if the persons fingers touch the persons knees while standing up. which is not observed in any human beings. I did not do the quite extensive search but the papers i have read did not point to any any modern human beings have this characteristic but it is observed in other homo species which survived till recently. many of the homospecies survided as recently as 10ky to 100ky. Many of these species interbred, all of them except homosapiens sapiens went extinct. do you have any information in this regard.
        Thanks
        Aditya

  34. Dear Nileshji

    I was joining through your video of where is Ravana Lanka and it seems your description matches very well with the Land called “Kumari kandam”. This land is now submersed in water now but this “Kumar Kandam” is supposed to be a place equally advanced as Atlantis. With your skills you will be able to get to more details about it.

    Regards
    Dinesh

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    • Thank you.

      I am busy working on 30+ projects at any given time. I select my projects based on my interest and abilities.

      I suggest you take on this project of Kumari Kandam and Ravana’s Lanka and continue to update me on the progress you make.

      All the best.

      Nilesh Oak

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  36. Dear Nilesh, Admire your work.
    Having read few of your works and heard lectures on youtube; I have a question –
    If you happen to assume 3067 B.C. was the year of Mahabharata war (not that I am convinced by your critics, but as an admirer of breadth of your work), how does it impact your other dates on Vedas, Saraswathi, Ramayana, Surya Siddhanta; does it all fall apart or still holds good individually. How important is 5561 B.C. of Mahabharata in your grand jigsaw puzzle of dating our itihaasa ?
    Congratulations on your future endeavors and would be happy to help you if you need some hands and brains for any of your research work.
    Thanks…

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    • The datings of Ramayana or Mahabharata are independent of each other or independent of any other source, i.e. ancient Indian narratives.

      Ditto for Rigveda. Enormous evidence in support of its current timeline. And while Rigveda ranges from the 6th millennium BCE through 22,000+ BCE and beyond. Of course, its upper bound is certainly not knowable at this time.

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  37. Hello Nilesh Ji,

    I have watched many of your videos and kudos to you for doing what you are doing. I have found that you are unique among Indian scholars in applying scientific method for your claims regarding indian texts.
    At least I haven’t seen anyone else applying such rigor.
    I also saw some of your videos where you talk about indian scientitic methods described in Darshanas and how they relate to the modern scientific methods such as the deductive and inductive logic.

    I was wondering if you could write such a book just on the scientific methods comparing modern philosophy of science with that of Indian scientific philosophy/framework.

    I have read some of the scientific philosophy as applied in natural sciences including Popper that you allude to in many of your talks. And while going through other works came across what is known as the approach of jurisprudence and it sounds awefully a lot like Nyaya sutra.
    I won’t be surprised to know if they got their theories from our Darshanas.
    But I am not a scholar of Darshana so I am waiting for some authentic works from Indian scholars to put the two together in comparative sense and find out how much Indian Rishi’s had already discovered and put down in texts/ Darshana that we credit others for original works.

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    • Thank you.

      I hope I can write such a book one day. I certainly am working on creating a course based on the Indian knowledge system and research methods, frankly, combined with the best of modern science. Your observation is correct when you notice similarities. It is possible for human beings to arrive at such methods independently. There are allusions to the arrival of scientific acumen and logical reasoning from India to the west, however, so far direct evidence has eluded me.

      The investigation will require expert knowledge of few European languages (German, French, Spanish, English), Arabic, Persian, and the ability to track knowledge transfer over at least 500+ years.

      I am a great fan of Sir Karl Popper and his work (and I am very familiar with works of other western philosophers of science or philosophers in general). In spite of that, I am only fascinated when I read ancient Indian Nyaya, Samkhya or Yoga (and other Darshana works) works by their width and depth and the precision and accuracy about the issues faced by humanity in acquiring knowledge and discriminating between Sat and Myth.

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  38. Dear Nilesh ji,

    First of all let me express my deep respect for the untiring work that you have been doing on the topics of Mahabharata and Ramayana dating. I have been following your talks since quite some time and they have been very enlightening and also encouraging to make me read more about the history and related evidences.

    Yesterday, after attending your Sangam talk on “Krishna’s Dwaraka”, had been searching for related articles and videos on the net since i was remembering a video with descriptions of stone boulders, some portion of walls etc. found by the Oceanography team.

    While searching, I came across this link of a Travel Channel program on the work done in Dwaraka by Josh Gates. “Expedition Unknown: 3 x 16 India’s Atlantis”

    https://trakt.tv/shows/expedition-unknown/seasons/3/episodes/16

    I tried to find the full video but it seems there might be geographical restrictions and hence could not access it here in Singapore.
    You might have already seen this.
    Are there any evidences in this work by Josh Gates that further support your claim on the timing of Dwaraka’s destruction?
    Also does the 7000 BP dating of the wooden log found in the sea around Dwaraka help further support your claim?

    Many thanks for entertaining so many questions from all of us!

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  39. Nileshji I am very impressed by your work and it has provided me great motivation in my research on Vedic Dewi Saraswati. But after seeing your video on sattology channel on Gomphotheres I would like to point out what I think is an error on your part. If I am correct then you are giving the date of Ramayan around 14000 years BP and you also mention about the 2, 3 & 4 tusked elephants of Ramayan and equate them to Gomphotheres. But at the Ramayan date that you are mentioning no four tusked Gomphotheres existed. Now there were Gomphotheres around that time, precisely two species cuvieronius hyodon and notiomastodon platenis but they were brevirostrine Gomphotheres. Brevirostrine means that the lower tusks of an elephant ancestor or relative have either vanished or have become vestigial.

    Plus the multiple tusked elephants in Indian iconography are always shown to have multiple upper tusks and not lower ones be it Indra’s Airavat or the 6 tusked white elephant that enterd the womb of Buddha’s mother in her dream. So I think the 3 and 4 tusked elephants were mutants of Asian elephants and not Gomphotheres.

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  40. In the above comment I mistakenly typed that you equated 2, 3 & 4 tusked elephants of Ramayan with Gomphotheres. I would like to correct myself. You only equated the 4 tusked elephant of Ramayan to the gomphothere.

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  41. Namaste Nileshji

    I am very impressed by your work and it has given me motivation in my research on Vedic Dewi Saraswati. I just watched your video on sattology channel about gomphotheres and I would like to point out what I think is an error on your part. If I am correct then you are giving the date of Ramayan around 14000 years BP and in that video you meantioned about the 2, 3 and 4 tusked elephants of Ramayan and you also equated the 4 tusked elephant to a Gomphothere. Now I would like to point out that around the time of your dating of Ramayan though there were Gomphotheres precisely two species cuvieronius hyodon and notiomastodon platenis but none of them had four tusks. They were brevirostrine Gomphotheres, brevirostrine means that the lower tusks of a proboscidean have either vanished or have become vestigial. So the gomphotheres around that time were only of two tusked variety.

    Plus the multi tusked elephants in Indian iconography are always shown with multiple upper tusks and not the lower ones be it Indra’s Airavat or the 6 tusked white elephant that entered the womb of Buddha’s mother in her dream.

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  42. Namaste Nileshji

    I am impressed by your work and it has provided me motivation in my research on Vedic Dewi Saraswati. But after seeing your video on sattology channel on Gomphotheres I would like to point out what I think is an error on your part. If I am correct then you are giving the date of Ramayan around 14000 years BP. You meantioned the 2, 3 & 4 tusked elephants of Ramayan in the video and you equated the 4 tusked elephant with a gomphothere. Now I would like to point out that though around that time there were Gomphotheres precisely two species cuvieronius hyodon and notiomastodon platenis but none of them had four tusks. They were brevirostrine Gomphotheres, brevirostrine means that the lower tusks of a proboscidean have either vanished or become vestigial.

    Plus in the Indian iconography the multi tusked elephants are shown to have multiple upper tusks and no lower tusks be it Indra’s Airavat or the 6 tusked white elephant that entered the womb of Buddha’s mother. So in my opinion the 4 tusked elephant of Ramayan would also be a mutant Asian elephant.

    ( I couldn’t see my comment being posted so this is my third time posting it).

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  43. Respected Nilesh Sir,

    I am first of all very much thankful to you for your years of researches and unveiling of such knowledge about the history of Bharatvarsh.

    I have some queries as I mentioned some in the subject.
    I have come to some videos which follows the researches of Kota Venkata Chelam(KVC ji). They say of having two Buddhas being present as well as two Shankaracharya. First Lord Buddha is placed in c. 1800s BCE. Second one is the usual one.

    Do you agree with this part of the dating?

    As I found that your research says of the date of Mahabharata being 5561 BCE which predates KVC ji’s dating, but is the placing of Lord Buddha at around 1800 alright?

    Accordingly I will be having queries of placing Ajatasatru, Bimbisara, Prasenjit, Chandragupta Maurya and others.

    I am actually finding these researches some how unconnected with each other. I have seen some of your works and I find your methodology as quite legitimate and right as per my limited knowledge.

    Again, there is also the confusion regarding non availability of horse remains in significant number in the IVC, which is quite confusing given the dating of Mahabharata, Ramayana, Rig Veda all of which mention about horses.

    Again, if I research on Wikipedia, it is written that Aryan invasion theory is rejected and is replaced by Aryan migration theory into Bharat. What is your position on this?

    And another query which might seem silly as I am not very much aware of these fields, I just want to know what materials were used or were available like iron, bronze, copper, etc., during all of these periods, starting from the Rig Vedic period which you mention to be approximately beginning about 21000 years ago? Were all the colors available? We read histories of painted black ware or grey ware or red ware etc. ? I have the doubt about the presence of varieties of colors in those days be it Rig Vedic period or Ramayana age or Mahabharata age. Can you please clarify?

    I have some requests and suggestions to you.
    1) please make a book about your researches on Rig vedic times plus the times of the other 3 vedas.
    2) please mention about the relationship of these ages with the Sangam age literatures and time frame which supposedly places a date of around 9990 years total for the three phases of Sangam period of Pandyan Kingdom. I have doubts whether the Pandyan kingdom was really present for all these 9990 years.
    3) please mention or write about the conditions of the other parts of the subcontinent like the northeastern India in various periods of our history .

    4) please make a Wikipedia page of yours stating your researches.

    Sir, I am a student preparing for UPSC IAS exam. I am almost fed up of reading history books which i feel not to be reflecting the true scenario of our civilizational history. I request you to prepare books about Indian history for students aspiring for UPSC which does not hide or distorts facts or which are not apologetic about bring a Bharatiya.

    My final suggestion is that kindly fight in the court of law, about telling the students the correct history at least as far as you have discovered till now. We as a student had been taught with various false theories like Aryan invasion theories. We had not the truth. But I want our next generations to be reading the correct history about our civilization without any political bias other than what it means to be from a Bharatiya civilization.

    I am highly satisfied for all your vast research works and effort and will be highly grateful if my queries are explained.

    Wishing you and your team all the best for the researches you all are tirelessly pursuing, I express my thanks to you all.

    Thank you so much once again.

    Yours faithfully,
    Sri Rahul Singha

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  44. Namaste Nilesh ji,
    This is Gururaj from Bangalore. In Bhagavatha Purana, Shuka Muni says KIng Parikshita in 15th Skanda and 2nd adhyaya, that kali Yuga ends when Sun, Moon and Jupiter comes in pushya nakshatra, then krutha yuga starts. If you are able to place those planets in pushya and calculate when kali yuga ends. Then we will be exactly know how many years are there in kali yuga. Years calculation in the other yugas will be much easier.

    Thanks
    Gururaj
    9449859089

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    • Namaskar. I think you asked this question/comment elsewhere too. As I said, this situation would happen at least once every 12 years. Thus the evidence is not sufficient to determine what you are looking for. Thank you.

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  46. Dear Nilesh, This is Col (Prof) Aditya Parida (Retd) from Sweden. I had the opportunity to watch most of your videos especially, on Mahabharata war, Ramayan and Down the time line of 17ooo years of Indian heritage. In fact I am so happy to see that your work is matching with my thinking and belief. You are genious to carry on this work further. I strongly feel that your findings be told and shared with other Indians especially the younger generation. Being 72 Plus, I am trying my little bit and wants to share your work/presentations to the Indians here. I hope you have no objection to use your video presentations and data.Trust you and family are doing fine. Regards,
    Aditya
    0046730911650
    aditya.parida@ltu.se

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      • Dear Nilesh,
        Namaskar. Thanks a lot for your understanding and reply. I have ordered your books and will go through them for detailed study. I admire and appreciate your search for truth and doing the great service to Indian heritage and civilization.
        Warm regards,
        Aditya

      • Thank you. Happy reading. Reading and re-readings required yet new ‘ah ha’ moment guaranteed with each reading or re-reading.

  47. Respected Nilesh Ji,
    I was completely engrossed by your wonderful work on Chronicling the Mahabharata and Ramayana…
    With regards to Arundhuti I have one question …
    Sir, there are many stars whose light has not reached us while many have died but are just appearing to us in sky due to the property of light and the time it takes to reach our eyes..
    while using astronomical evidence is this fact factored in…
    is there a possibility that some old star died 21000 years ago and new formed…

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    • The astronomy facts you mention are factored in my research.

      Reg. your second point, old stars are dying and new stars are emerging all the time. This has no connection with the evidence of the epics.

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      • Thanks for the reply Sir…
        your thunder bolt replies reflect the focus and intensity of thoughts…
        just like…
        Jimi amogh Raghupati Kar Bana….

  48. Hi Sir.
    If I have made some discovery about Ramayana, any suggestion on where to publish the information.
    I want to make sure that I am credited for the discovery of the information.
    What is your advice. Thanks

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    • Depending on the extent of discovery, you can publish it on your blog, you can publish a book or create a short (or long) YouTube video.

      All the best.

      Nilesh Oak

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      • Hi SIr. Thanks for the reply.
        Regarding Dwarka, since it was submerged in an instant and not slowly, have Sir’ considered tsunami caused by meteorite / comet as a possibility?

      • Thank you.

        Infinite possibilities exist and I hope that some new Indic researchers would research them further.

        On the other hand, hard oceanography empirical evidence available from around the world (Gulf of Mexico, the coast of Maine, USA, Turkey/Black Sea/Bosphorous channel, Arabian sea, Western coast of India around Gujarat, the eastern coast of Tamilnadu near Poompuhur, Australia consistently corroborate 5525 BCE as the year for the flooding and destruction of Krishna’s Dwarka.

  49. Hi Sir.
    Sorry for troubling you. I am doing my own research on Ramayana.
    Based on Sir’s research, was there any major cyclone during the time of Ramayana?
    Thanks

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      • I have,that is why I’m cross checking with Sir. I don’t know where I can get scientific data on major cyclones during the period of Ramayana. Is there any site that I can get this type of info. It could be an added proof for Sir’s timing of Ramayana. An aspect that I assume Sir have not considered before this.

      • You have to do 100s of original research projects to realize how to identify the toughest unsolved problem to work on, knowing well that there is no guarantee of success.

        Many folks waste much time of their own and those of others when they lack scientific acumen and logical reasoning.

        Shraddha + Samshaya + Jijnasa can help.

        All the best.

  50. Dear Nilesh Oak ji,

    I am an academic researcher by profession and also an amateur student of Indology, Sanskrit and History. Your efforts on dating our great epics and the glorious Indian history is commendable. And I have been following your numerous talks and have also read your first book The Mystery of Arundhati.

    I agree with you that the West has undermined the antiquity of our culture and downplayed the richness of our legacy completely. And your work is a great first step at correcting the course of discussion.

    Sir, but with all due respect, I feel that your theory stretches the dates of our history and the epics a far too back than what is convincing to a reasonable mind. The data from genomic studies, archeological excavations, linguistics and all other major disciplines seem to go against your pet theories that claim Mahabharat war to 5K BCE, Ramayan to 12K BCE and our civilisational roots to 22K BCE or so.

    Science demands that experiments always be reproducible and yet when other scholars in this field, both Indian and Western, tried to repeat your experiments, they failed to reach the same conclusions as you. I am confused as to why a scholar like you who repeatedly quotes Karl Popper and Hindu Nyaya Shastras would still stick to his pet theories despite direct evidence from several disciplines that falsify your theories. It is like someone saying Newton’s theory of gravity is the only real explanation of gravity even when Arthur Eddington’s 1919 experiments clearly falsified the predictions of Newton’s theory and established Einstein’s Theory of General Relativity for once and for all (until a new observation that cannot be explained and a better theory to explain it comes up).

    Plus, another requirement of “good science” which distinguishes it from “pseudo-science” is “PEER REVIEW”. If other experts from the field do not agree to a theory crafted by a person X, and if experiments suggested by person X to test the predictions of his theory cannot conclusively and reproducibly establish the claims then the theory is scrapped, no matter what. Even if Mr. X goes on to write a book and makes videos for convincing the general public the theory cannot be accepted as scientific no matter how many likes and awards it gets from the masses that do not understand the intricacies and nuances of the theory. (For example see the recent case of Dr. Kumar Eswaran’s claim of solving the Riemann Hypothesis). And despite searching the internet vastly, I could not find a peer reviewed research publication from you, plus as I have already stated above, many experts tend to (if at all) only refute your theory.

    Thus, it is deeply disturbing to a young student like me, who loves both science and indology, as your work seems to trespass the ethics of both these fields. Plus I was just amazed to see your narcissistic blog article where you place yourself in the ranks of Einstein, Shrodinger, Planck, Heisenberg, Pauli, Darwin, Maxwell et al. Great job! You forgot Aryabhatt, Kanaad and other Indian sages probably.

    While the laymen may get easily deceived by a fascinating story that caters to their imagination, the rigorous scientists and experts in the field who seek nothing but the truth cannot be easily deceived. Furthermore, it is impossible to deceive the Self. Quotations from Popper and Nyaya Shastra may amuse the public about the breadth of your knowledge but they cannot plug the loopholes in your theory from the eyes of vigilant seekers of truth.

    If you are a true historian and a sincere seeker of the truth, I urge you to please not distort the truth and our cultural history to an extent that it is laughed at by the world for being the best spectacle of pseudoscience. May your political ambitions and personal aspirations not cloud your conscience and reasoning. May the Brahman guide everyone to goodness and truth. Peace!

    Yours sincerely,
    A Science and Indology enthusiast

    PS: Ideologically I lean to the Right and am a proud Hindu
    (i.e. to say that this criticism is not a Left/West motivated hate spewing)

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    • I do see attacks from Trolls all the time. I would be very happy to have an open debate with you if you have done any original work in this area and have alternate claims that are backed by empirical and scientific evidence.

      I am approving your post to keep it as a good exhibit of ‘Trolling’.

      My best wishes to you.

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    • I have no comments on the dating but I will agree fully with you, Krshani in terms of Mr. Nilesh Oak being a ‘self obsessed’ scientist. He fails to see other people’s argument and only cherry picks any information that suits his beliefs. He cleverly hides his insecurities by using this word ‘ my conjecture’ in his explanations.
      One good example is being adamant that ‘Lanka’ is located in the empty ocean when Nala setu is clearly there to provide proof that Sri Lanka is Ravana’s Lanka.
      The crap argument that anyone against him is a motivated troll with certain ideologies doesn’t apply to me as I’m not even an Indian national and I’m a proud Hindu.

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      • I am approving it as Troll exhibit #2. That is it. Future ones will be sent to Spam and Trash unless they are creative enough to warrant their inclusion. 🙂

      • ¤

        Dear Ekasanatani, It is mentioned in all astronomy tests that Longitudinal line of Ujjain passes through lanka. Moreover Yojana is certainly above 8 km. Ravana’s palace is described as being decorated with Nilamanis ( Blue Saffire stones ) from Simhala Dwipa. So Valmiki knew Simhala as an island seperate from Ravana’s lanka.

        Moreover, the gulf of mannar can easily be crossed on boats, catamarans & vanaras would not have despaired at Gulf of Mannar.

        Long time elapsed since Ramayana & we have accumulated lot of wrong notions.

        ¤

      • True, it looks strange that the Nala Setu link between Kanyakumari & Sri Lanka is so obvious.
        However please note the map of sea level 21000 years ago, refer link (https://earthlymission.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/coastlines_of_the_ice_age_south_asia.jpg)
        of today’s topography without influence of earthquake, volcanic eruption & tectonic change, will show that today Sri Lanka was not an island. (Please note that 21,000 years back the relative position between mainland & Sri Lanka may not have been the same as shown in the map) I do not have the same map of 14000 years ago (the time Rama crossed over to Lanka). The Lanka where Rama crossed over to, as indicated in Valmiki Ramayana seems to have disappeared which may be due to earthquake, volcanic eruption & tectonic change. So, it is difficult to completely discard Dr Oak’s statement

      • There are layers of intellect – Satva, Raja, and Tama (BG 18:30-32). Some folks understand it as it should be understood. others have mixed understanding and still, others understand it (or misunderstand it) 180 degrees opposite of what is to be understood.

        Precisely the reason while ‘Prasad’ is for everyone, Bhajana is for the majority, Japa-Tapa is for a sadhaka and Tatvajnana/Darshana is for a Jnani.

      • Good day.
        @Rama Krishna Ravana’s Lanka is on the longitudinal line, I didn’t say it is not. What I said is Sri Lanka is Ravana’s Lanka. I’ll give you specific values if you want, Ravana’s Lanka area is 8 miles (13km) x 5 miles (8km). His palace area alone is 2 miles x 1 mile.

        @Sir Nilesh Ji: I just watched Sir’s ‘River Sarasvati: When Geology meets Itihasa’. I’m happy that Sir mentioned Lake Toba. That is the single most important word throughout Sir’s video. Follow that path,
        Jnani.

    • Are you referring to an island near Gujrat (Krishna’s Dwarka – flooding and disappearing in 5525 BCE) or are you referring to a dot just south of Kanyakumari?

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      • I was referring to the island (dot) appearing on the SW side of the Indian continent ..which seems to be atleast 50 Km in diameter on both dimensions,, apparently of the size of two Mumbai island..

        It’s also on the prime meredian that you had described in your presentation.

        It surely looks very practical to build a bridge towards this island in such a short period of time by vanara’s given its proximity to Indian sub continent.

        Also it seems to appear around 13500 BC to 9500 BC which coincides with your Ramayana dating..

        The only problem is that it’s not on the equator .. as per your findings..

      • Two more things to add

        This may also be the reason why Mahabharata texts were not clear on location of Lanka .. as it was under water around 5500 BC..

        During Ramayana time.. the ocean water between India and this island could be very shallow..

      • I found the following excerpt from this link

        https://humanpast.net/environment/environment12k.htm

        ” It appears that, in round figures, the poles remain stationary for periods of about 30,000 years, then move around for 6,000 years, then again stay put for 30,000 years, and so on. Scientists have established that the last four rounds of the poles started 120,000 years ago when the North Pole installed itself in the territory of Yukon in Canada at 63° Nand 135° W; then it went to the Greenland Sea at 72° N and 10° E about 84,000 years ago, moved from 54,000 until 48,000 years ago and settled in the middle of Hudson Bay at 60° N and 83° W; it rested there for 30,000 years; then wandered again from about 18,000 to about 12,000 years ago when it came to its present location. ”

        My point is ..(and you may correct pls if I am wrong ) that if postion if North pole was not constant…and changed through different ages..which means that position of equator would have also changed in relation to North pole ..

        NP was in transition and wandering from Hudson Bay (54000 years ago) to its current position.. which means position of equator would have been different 14000 years ago..

      • I found the following excerpt from this link

        https://humanpast.net/environment/environment12k.htm

        ” It appears that, in round figures, the poles remain stationary for periods of about 30,000 years, then move around for 6,000 years, then again stay put for 30,000 years, and so on. Scientists have established that the last four rounds of the poles started 120,000 years ago when the North Pole installed itself in the territory of Yukon in Canada at 63° Nand 135° W; then it went to the Greenland Sea at 72° N and 10° E about 84,000 years ago, moved from 54,000 until 48,000 years ago and settled in the middle of Hudson Bay at 60° N and 83° W; it rested there for 30,000 years; then wandered again from about 18,000 to about 12,000 years ago when it came to its present location. ”

        My point is ..(and you may correct pls if I am wrong ) that if postion of North pole was not constant…and changed through different times..which means that position of equator would have also changed in relation to North pole ..

        NP was in transition and wandering from Hudson Bay (54000 years ago) to its current position.. which means position of equator would have been different 14000 years ago..

  53. I feel there are at least two learnings from our Indic languages’ grammar. One is recursion (had just heard about it from someone about Prakrit grammar structure and I can be wrong) which is the basic process of a memory device. Other what I feel is “Manvikaran” alankaar which can be used for understanding many subjects like Geopolitics. Are there more?

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  54. Exactly similar (Year 5562) dating of Mahabharat war is done by Dr. P. V. Vartak during 1960s 70s, surprisingly, his finding matches with work of Nilesh Oak.
    Search Internet for Scientific Dating of Mahabharat War by Dr. P. V. Vartak (His book Swayambhoo)
    Date Calculated for MB was by Dr. Vartak is 16th October 5562
    Search for Scientific Dating of Ramayan ( Book Vastav Ramayan) –

    Rama’s Birth Date 4th December 7323 B.C
    Rama-Seeta Married 7th April 7307 B.C
    Rama Exiled 29th November 7306 B.C.
    Hanuman enters Lanka 1st September 7292 B.C
    Hanuman meets Seeta 2nd September 7292 B.C.
    Seetu (Bridge) built 26-30th Oct. 7292 B.C
    on the ocean
    The War begins 3rd November 7292 B.C
    Kumbhakarna is killed 7th November 7292 B.C.
    Ravana is killed by Rama 15th November 7292 B.C.
    Rama returns to Ayodhya 6th December 7272 B.C.
    References
    Dr.P.V.Vartak, Vastav Ramayan in Marathi, Vedvidnyana Mandal, Pune

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  55. Nilesh Ji Namaskar.
    I have been following your videos for several years now.
    I have completed Module 1 of the Indian Calendar systems (up to 1.8). Not sure if there are more. Also, found the Module 2 up to 6th chapter. I will be going through those in the coming couple of weeks.
    Are there any recommendations for further reading on this subject ?
    Requesting your inputs as I am just looking for some authentic sources without any twisted meanings intentionally or unintentionally and lost-in-translation scenarios.
    DhanyavAdAh
    Kishore

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  56. Nilesh ji, really appreciate all your work on Mahabhart dating as it makes me feel proud as an Indian. Congratulations! I have following questions on the validity of the dating:
    Are you basing all your work on some software models? Assuming you do, my second question is how it was validated that the model is accurate for a period 7000 years ago? I do accept that these models got be good for the current period as we are landing on moon and mars using these software models. I am pretty ignorant about your models. I do know about the modeling using software packages as a mechanical engineer.

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    • My work is based on mathematical calculations and astronomy software, both are used to validate each other. The software are very reliable for the kind of evidence available in the Indian texts. In addition, the nature of the evidence is such that in turn, it allows testing the validity of modern astronomy software (goosebumps moment!).

      The non-astronomy evidence from 12+ branches of hard sciences (geology, hydrology, archaeology, paleontology, oceanography, climatology, sedimentology, physical anthropology, genetics, etc.) validates these predictions arrived at via archaeo-astronomy.

      Further, these are also validated via extended texts (ancient Indian narratives). It is beyond amazing.

      Hope this helps.

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  57. Hi Nilesh Ji,

    I am fascinated to see your presentations in You Tube. I have a question that is not letting me to be convinced about the date of Ramayana as 12000BCE. Isnt that mesolithic period where humans only started learning farming and domestication of wild animals. How come the they would be able to write the scriptures with immaculate astronomical observations.
    I know you are very busy and great scholar however, I would be grateful to you if you could please clarify my doubt.
    Thanks in advance.
    Abhishek
    from Melbourne Australia

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    • You mentioned “mesolithic period where humans only started learning farming and domestication of wild animals” – this is based on what references ? Have those references been validated for their scientific accuracy? Please check. You will have your answers.
      I apologize for taking liberty to respond, even though question is for Nilesh ji.
      Those are just my thoughts.

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    • Hi Nilesh Ji,
      Thanks for your response. I am not a researcher or archeologist, just a truth seeker. So apologies if my question seems naive or not credible enough to discuss. My question was raised on the basis of the archeological/cultural evidence discovery at various sites in northern India (Chopani Mando) and their radiocarbon dating. They were mostly microliths and dated to 9000 BC. The date for Ramayana as stated in your book is 12000 BC.
      Lord Rama is not only an iconic figure but a thought and way of life for many people deeply rooted like me. I have no intention to stir any argument or dispute. Just wanted to clarify my doubt. I am a constant admirer of your work Nilesh Ji and will be grateful if you can clarify how a 12000BC age civilization can have such immaculate astronomical observations and apparently advanced civilization.
      Many thanks
      Abhishek

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      • 1. I do not understand what stops you from comprehending/accepting multiple (575+) evidence of Valmiki Ramayana evidence coming together to 12209 BCE.

        2. Indian astronomy has very precise and accurate evidence going back to 19000 BCE, 24500 BCE, 28500 BCE, 34,500 BCE, 38,000 BCE….what to speak of 12000 BCE!

        Hope this helps.

        Nilesh

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  59. Dear Sir,
    I am someone interested to do research in Astronomy based on ancient Indian texts. Can you please guide me? Please share an email id in which I can share the details of my passion.

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  61. Dear sir,

             In Ranveer show, you said that, Australian Mrs. Mitra Desai discovered mount ananta. But in comment section of that video people mentioned name of Dr. P.V.Varatak 91 yrs old. He first discovered this mount ananta and wrote book about this. I Googled and i found that marathi book वास्तव रामायण.

    Please you clarify more in next video…your podcast is great great great… धन्यवाद 🙏🙏🙏

    Jagdish Shete

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  62. Namaskaaram

    When Sugriva describes the different landmarks going in the 4 directions does he sort of go back and forth a bit? That is it say it is correct that Sugriva doesn’t describe the landmarks going in a straight line its more of a zig zag?

    Ramanujan

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