Astronomy Lynchpins: Ramayana & Mahabharata


A researcher asked….

This question is for Nilesh Oak. There is a bit of a preamble to the question.

The Ashokan inscriptions are dated via the mention of four rulers – Ptolemy, Alexander, Antigonus and Magas.

I’m no expert on dynasties, but the situation seems to me to be the following:

If the Ashokan inscriptions had only mentioned one of Ptolemy, Alexander, Antigonus, or even any two of them, we’d be hard pressed to date them, because there are quite a few Ptolemies, Alexanders and Antigonuses. My guess is that even all three of them were mentioned, there would be more than one era that can be found where there were a contemporaneous Ptolemy, Alexander and Antigonus.

Magas however seems to be rare or perhaps even unique.

Thus Magas fixes the date of the Ashokan inscription, and Ptolemy, Alexander, Antigonus provide confirmation by the circumstance of one of each being contemporary to Magas. Magas is the lynchpin, the other three are support.

Similarly, I imagine in the astronomical information in the Mahabharata and Ramayana, there are some lynchpins and others are supporting. Of course, the analysis is much more difficult, because there are a lot of observations.

My question is – has this type of analysis already been done? or if not, is there enough information in your publications to do that analysis?

Thanks in advance!

My Response…

Yes, the very objective, intent, content and core of my both books is precisely dedicated to this type of analysis.
There is enough information in my books (and blogs…spread out in bits and pieces)and also youtube videos for anyone to do this analysis.
Sticking to only astronomy relevant evidence, for now….
Both epics have linchpins.

The linchpins come from what I call ‘astronomy observations’ due to long term phenomenon of ‘Precession of Equinoxes’.

(of course these are simplifications. reality is far more interesting and on a much more firmer footing than Ashoka inscription might be)


(1) Arundhati-Vasistha observation – linchpin par excellence. Shows that (mathematical certainty, scientific triangulation of explanation-prediction-testing- etc.) Mahabharata war not possible anytime after 4508 BCE or anytime before 11091 BCE.

This is a unique event (na bhuto, except one time shown above) (Bhavishyati – yes, 11,000 years from now)

(2) Set of Bhishma Nirvana observations – not a unique phenomenon because the descriptions by themselves will repeat once every ~26000 years for about 3500 year time interval, in every cycle of precession of equinoxes.

Then why is this also a linchpin?

This is a linchpin, because the phenomenon was only possible during ~7000 BCE through 3700 BCE, in the last 30,000 years!

So, unless someone is claiming Mahabharata war more than 30,000 year ago, this set of evidence is a linchpin

(3) 30+ observaions/analogies/descriptions of the season/sky during the war lead us to the conjecture that war occurred during the Sharad season

30+ observations/analogies/descriptions of the phases of the moon corroborate that war was occurred during the bright phase/Shukla paksha of the month (i.e. beginning with around Amawasya and ending just after full moon)

~5+ specific references/observations – positions of moon lead to the conclusion that Margashirsha was the month (lunar month) of the war

This means war occurred during the shukla paksha of Margashirsha and during the season of Sharad.

This by itself puts a lower limit of ~4000 BCE on the plausible timing of Mahabharata war

(4) Combine evidence of (3) with (2) and, again , we have another support for war not anytime after ~4500 BCE

The rest of the astronomy evidence (200+) goes in ‘supporting’ these inferences and assist in identifying specific year (5561 BCE) for the timing of MBH war.


Ramayana does not have ‘UNIQUE’ evidence like AV observation

It has 4 specific and independent astronomy observations (or set of them) that all point to 10,000 BCE or before


(1) Chaitra as the lunar month that occurred during Sharad season (10500 BCE – 15000 BCE)

(2) Ashwin as the lunar month that occurred during Vasanta seasong (11800 BCE – 16500 BCE)

(3) Sun setting near pushya during Hemant season (11500 BCE – 17500 BCE)

(4) Brahmarashi/Vega/Abhijit as pole star during Ramayana times ( 10,000 BCE – 14000 BCE)

These are linchpins.

The rest of the astronomy evidence (500+) goes in ‘supporting’ these inferences and assist in identifying specific year (12209 BCE) of the timing of Rama-Ravana war.


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