Saroj Bala’s Maha (Bharat) Misadventure series – Part 1

One of the readers of  Saroj Bala’s blog wrote me to request critiquing her (Saroj Bala’s) claim for the timing of Mahabharata war.

I went to the blog site of Shrimati Saroj Bala ji to know more about her claim for the year of Mahabharata War.

Here is what I found:

Saroj Bali ji claims the following…

Absolutely amazing final outcome of intensive Research carried out for more than Six years – Skyviews of all almost all Astronomical references in 18 parvans of Mahabharta verified during the period from 600 BC to 6000 BC

Let’s look at the outcome (only partial outcome, in this part) of six years of intensive research.

The following photograph is from Shrimati Saroj Bala’s blog.

Saroj Bala  MBH -1

The blog claims that 13 October 3139 BCE was the day of Amawasya and that the nakshatra was Jyestha.

My Response…

When I checked for the day of 13 October 3139 BCE (Julian calendar computation), here is what I found:

(1) The Tithi was that of ‘Shukla 13 (2 days away from the full moon day) and 13 days away from Amawasya (and thus nowhere close to Amawasya).

(2) The nakshatra of the day was ‘Bharani’ (some 11-12 days away from nakshatra Jyestha)

To be fair and to give benefit of doubt, I wondered if Saroj Bala ji had used ‘Gregorian calendar computation’ in stating the day of 13 October 3139 BCE.

I decided to test this possibility and this is what I found:

(1) The Tithi was that of ‘Shukla 10 ( 5 days away from the full moon day and 10 days away from Amawasya.

(2) The nakshatra of the day was Revati (or Ashwini) (again, some 10-11 days away from nakshatra Jyestha).

Conclusion:  The claim is thus falsified.

 

 

 

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4 thoughts on “Saroj Bala’s Maha (Bharat) Misadventure series – Part 1

  1. Stellarium (v 0.13.0) shows moon between Kruttika & Rohini, closer to the former to be more precise. Also it’s 14th day of Shukla paksha. This is on 13th October 3139 BC (-3138/10/13) on eastern horizon at around 7.10 pm

  2. Possibly this could be misunderstanding of astronomical year convention by the person whose dates are under consideration. It seems like few events (at least 2) do match for year 3140 BCE (-3139)…
    Will let you know in bit details later…

  3. So I further checked the astronomical events mentioned here for year 3140 BCE instead of 3139 BCE using Stellarium v 0.13.2.
    These events almost match for 3140 BCE as follows,
    – 12 October 3140 BCE does seem amavasya & moon is near Jyeshtha. (13th is shukla pratipada)
    – 20 December 3140 BCE : moon near Rohini, tithi seems to be dashami & not ashtami (mostly Maagh shukla 10 as the full moon would be near Magha after 5 days). But important point is this day is NOT winter solstice day. It would occur around 22-23 days later (12/13 Jan)
    – 26th August 3140 BCE (instead of 31st) is been shown as full moon day. Not sure about lunar eclipse on this day as Stellarium doesn’t show that (probably limitation of Stellarium). As a consequence 10th September is amavasya. Again Stellarium did not show 10th Sept as solar eclipse.
    – Moon is near Revati on 23rd (24th?) September 3140 BCE. However, autumnal equinox is around 21-22 days ahead.
    – Moon near Pushya on 2nd October 3140 BCE.

    Nilesh, I hope Voyager too shows the same dates for year 3140 BCE?

    The software used by Saroj Bala Ji probably uses astronomical year convention, ie. 0 = 1 BCE, -1 = 2 BCE, -9 = 10 BCE, -999 = 1000 BCE, -3139 = 3140 BCE. So it seems like she actually checked the dates for year 3140 BCE but the software showed for year -3139.
    I checked Planetarium Gold (tryout version) which uses same astronomical year convention. I feel this is the software used by her.
    Interestingly Planetarium Gold ALWAYS shows the 4 cardinal events (equinoxes & solstices) as per Gregorian calendar ie. 19/20/21 December as winter solstice, 22/23 september as autumnal equinox & so on. (ie. it’s actually using Gregorian calendar)

    • Amey,

      Please specify if 12 October, 20 December etc. in your above post are per Julian or Gregorian calendar?


      20 December 3140 BCE (per Gregorian calendar) is day after winter solstice, so that is ok (at least for the claim of Bhishma Nirvana matching with winter solstice)

      12 October 3140 BCE (Gregorian) is Vadya/Krishna 13, two days before Amawasya. If we give her proposal, a benefit of doubt, for moon correction..we may move the day by 2 to match with Amawasya, in which case 14 October 3140 BCE will become her claim for first day of War.

      In which case Bhishma Nirvana chronology would look like 9 days of October – from 23 October (Fall of Bhishma on 10th day of war)

      30 days of November and 19 days of December

      9 + 30+ 19 = 58 days for Bhishma on the bed of arrows. A timeline good at least per traditional deluded claim of 58 days (of course wrong per Mahabharata narrative evidence of >92 days. but we will leave it at this for now).

      Of course, the war is beginning, per her claim (assuming she is ok with 14 October 3140 BCE as the first day of War) then the timing is peak of Sharad. And per her claim, Krishna was in Hastinapur long before this and it was already an end of Sharad season and beginning of Hemant season!

      So, I agree that it is most likely that she took 3140 BCE as what she states it to be 3139 BCE.

      Will re-look at her other dates to find out what they show up

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