Criticism & Analysis: Dating of Ramayana (5114 BCE) by Late Shri Pushkar Bhatnagar – Part 3 of Many

You may begin with One min long tutorial on how to test a theory/proposal with Youtube video from this post.

https://nileshoak.wordpress.com/2014/02/19/harvard-indologists-escapade-in-archeo-astronomy-part-2-of-100/

And what are the consequences for any proposal that is claimed to have occurred in 5114 BCE?

During 5114 BCE,

The points of Equinoxes and solstices aligned as follows:

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This also means lunar months had following correspondence with the seasons,

Lunar Months Seasons
Chaitra-Vaishakha Shishir (winter)
Jyeshtha-Ashadha Vasanta (spring)
Shravan-Bhadrapada Grishma (summer)
Ashwin-Kartika Varsha (rain)
Margashirsha-Pausha Sharad (pre-autumn)
Magha- Phalguna Hemanta (autumn)

In our times, the point of fall equinox (as opposed to point of summer solstice) falls between nakshatras Hasta and U. Phalguni which also means lunar month of Phaguna is the first month of Vasanta (spring) season and lunar month of Chaitra is the second month of Vasanta season.

On the other hand, in 5114 BCE, lunar month of Phalguna was the last month of Hemant (autumn) seasons and lunar month of Chaitra was the first month of Shishir (winter) season.
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We cannot tell what led Late Shri Pushkar Bhatnagar to the erroneous conclusion of lunar month of Chaitra being that of Vasanta (spring) season during 5114 BCE.

(We will speculate, in future parts, the plausible reasons for this confusion of late Shri Pushkar Bhatnagar, related to the change in season of lunar months due the precession of equinoxes)

However, this is the root cause of why his proposed dates for each and every instance of Ramayana proposal conflict not only with

(1) descriptions of Valmiki Ramayana but also with

(2) his own assumptions for the seasons for specific instances of Ramayana.

Let’s us analyze proposed dates of Shri Pushkar Bhatnagar, for Ramayana instances.

Rama-Janma: On 10 January 5114 BCE, the sun was 15 days away from the point of winter solstice and thus this was the last part of Hemant (autumn) season and thus peak of winter.

On the other hand, Shir Pushkar Bhatnagar claims this to be the season of Vasanta (spring).

Valmiki Ramayana describes the lunar month of Chaitra (and thus timing of Rama-Janma) as the season when forests bloom with flowers, rain-clouds in the sky and dancing peacocks.. time resembling that of Sharad (pre-autumn) season.

Identical criticism would apply to day of 5 January 5089 BCE (the sun was 21 days away from the point of winter solstice).
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Khara –Rama fight (near Panchavati) – 7 October 5077 BCE

Shir Pushkar Bhatnagar claims that Khara-Rama fight occurred sometime after the first month of Hemant rutu (autumn).

On the other hand, the sun was 21 days away from the point of fall equinox. This means the time was that of the beginning of the Sharad (pre-autumn) season, more than 3 months removed from the desired timing for the proposal of Shri Bhatnagar


Rama killed Vali – 3 April 5076 BCE

Valmiki Ramayana states that this was the time of the beginning of Varsha (rainy season) and Shri Pushkar Bhatnagar also agrees that the season was that of the beginning of Varsha season.

On the other hand, on 3 April 5076 BCE, the sun was 26 days away from the point of spring equinox and thus this time was that of the beginning of Vasanta (spring) season, at least ~4 months away from the beginning of rainy season.


Hanuman in Lanka – 12 September 5076 BCE

Valmiki Ramayana states that Hanuman was in Lanka during the Vasanta (spring) season.
Shir Pushkar Bhatnagar claims this to be day of Full moon and lunar month of Margashirsha/Pausha and also season of Hemanta (since he takes lunar month of Shravana as the beginning of Varsha).

On the other hand,

– First, it is not the day of full moon. Let’s ignore this issue by adjusting the day by 3 days to 9 September, which is a full moon day.

– The position of the full moon is near Nakshatra Bharani. Thus the lunar month is more likely the lunar month of Ashiwn or Kartika, and definitely not that of Margashirsha or pausha.

– the sun is 39 days away from the point of summer solstice (after the point of summer solstice) and thus the season is that of peak of Varsha – rainy season. Thus the season of this proposed day of shri Bhatnagar, for Hanuman to be in Lanka, neither agrees with his own assumption of Hemant season nor with Valmiki Ramayana description of Vasanta (spring) season.


Hanuman in Lanka – 12 September 5076 BCE

Hanuman returns from Lanka to Northern shore – 14 September 5076 BCE

Rama left, along with Vanara army, from Kishkindha towards Lanka – 19 September 5076 BCE

– The distance between Rameshwaram (northern shore where Hanuman returned from Lanka) to Hampi/Bellari (Kishkindha) is about 900 Kilometers. Shri Bhatnagar claims that Vanara party, along with Hanumana, traveled this distance in 5-6 days!

I leave it to readers to make their own assessment.


Rama killed Ravana – 4 December 5076 BCE

Valmiki Ramayana states that this was the day of Amavasya.

On the other hand, 4 December 5076 BCE was the day of Shukla Paksha 12 (Dwa-dashi) of either lunar month of Pausha or Magha, and nowhere close to Amawasya.


Rama returns from Lanka, to ashram of sage Bharadwaj – 29 December 5076 BCE

Rama meets Bharata, after returning from Lanka – 30 December 5076 BCE

Valmiki Ramayana states that Rama arrived at ashram of sage Bharadwaj (from Lanka) on Panchami (the lunar month is not mentioned) and Rama met Bharata, the next day on nakshatra Pushya.
This mention of Nakshatra Pushya matching with Shashti (6th lunar Tithi) means the month was either that of Kartika (Krishna 6) or that of Vaishakha (Shukla 6).

Against these descriptions of Valmiki Ramayana, 29 December 5076 was Shukla 8 of lunar month of Phalguna (and not Kartika or Vaishakha), and nakshatra was Rohini.
This means 30 December 5076 BCE was not the day of Shukla 6 and also the nakshatra was not Pushya, as described in Valmiki Ramayana.

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