Is Uttara Kanda of Ramayana Interpolated?

Someone wrote……

You have stated, “On the other hand, if this logic is used to extend it further, to assume, therefore, that ‘Uttara Ramayana’ in INTERPOLATED, then such a claim is without any basis.” On what basis have you claimed your opinion?

Vaalmeeki’s Raamaayan concludes after Yuddhkaand as can be gauged by the ‘Falashruti’ which states that “whosoever reads, listens, copies etc would become very happy, Falashruties come at the end of any ethical or religious work; however it may come in the beginning also to encourage the reader.

Vaalmeeki penned the Raamaayan based on the story being told to him by Naarad Muni who also ended his narration just after the coronation. Therefore there was no requirement for Vaalmeeki to write the Uttar kaand. In Mahabhaarat also the story of Raamaayan is given but it also does not have the contents of Uttarkaand. Obviously the interpolation has come after the ‘Mahabhaarat’.

Vaalmeeki’s aim of creating an ideal man is achieved with the coronation, hence there was no need to extend the story any further, especially by destroying the ‘idealism’ of Shri Raam..
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My original messages stated…..

If one means by ‘later addition’, that ‘Uttar Ramayana” was not part of ‘FIRST EDITION’ of Valmiki Ramayana… then logic is ‘Quite obvious”.

On the other hand, if this logic is used to extend it further, to assume, therefore, that ‘Uttara Ramayana’ in INTERPOLATED, then such a claim is without any basis.

I am in the final stages of my book on ‘The Historic Rama’. I approached entire Valmiki Ramayana from an experimentalist’s point of view, i.e. to test the claims of it and see where they fall. My narrow focus was specifically on astronomy, chronology and season descriptions of Ramayana.

Briefly I can state that these sets of observations are consistent throughout the 7 Kandas of Ramayana.
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My response….

I am asserting that 7 Kandas of Ramayana is a consistent work based on my testing of astronomy, chronology and seasons descriptions from the Valmiki Ramayana (from Bala Kanda through Uttara Kanda..both inclusive).

No, it is not just opinion.

As to the details, I would kindly request you to read my book (The Historic Rama) which I hope to publish sooon (next few weeks/months).
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I approached the subject (of Ramayana, and also of Mahabharata.. see my already published work.. Amazon) from a skeptics viewpoint…

(1) Ramayana (and Mahabharata) may be true or false, may have interpolations, transcriptions and transliteration issues
(2) It is very hard to disprove something, and one can not prove anything. All we can do is corroborate. On the other hand we can falsify many things/theories etc.
(3) Ramayana as it comes to us – Valmiki Ramayana is the subject here…so when I say Ramayana, I mean Valmiki Ramayana—as made up of 7 Kandas (bala thrugh Uttara). So Null Hypothesis is that Valmiki Ramayana is made up of 7 Kandas (Status quo).

Thus the onus is on those claiming “Uttara kanda” to be not part of Valmiki Ramayana to explain what makes them say that.

Against this background,let’s look at the comments made by someone..

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(1) Phalashruti: It comes at the end or beginning of a ethical or religious works.
My response…..

(I am reproducing). If one means by ‘later addition’, that ‘Uttar Ramayana” was not part of ‘FIRST EDITION’ of Valmiki Ramayana… then logic is ‘Quite obvious”.

Thus I am agreeing that Valmiki completed his first edition in 6 Kandas.

Now to second sub point..

Ramayana is ethical (and religious) work alright. But it is more. Both Ramayana and Mahabharata are Itihas and thus logical for a author to add more info in future editions and/or as seen relevant after the completion of book (e.g. Appendices, notes and so on). Ramayana has Uttara Kanda, Mahabharata has ‘Harivamsha’ as Khila-parva (Appendix)

(2) You take conversation between Narad Muni and Valmiki, literally! Fair. That makes Valmiki only scribe of Ramayana. I disagree. However let me emphasize that this is NOT a relevant point at all for issue under discussion.

(3) You state.. Therefore there was no requirement for Valmiki to write Uttar Kanda.

I completely agree with you. There was no requirement whatsoever. It appears that Valmiki chose to write Uttarakanda, as much as Vyasa chose to write Harivamsha as an appendix (Khila parva) to Mahabharata.

(4) You say….
In Mahabhaarat also the story of Raamaayan is given but it also does not have the contents of Uttarkaand. Obviously the interpolation has come after the ‘Mahabhaarat’.

My response…..
Ramopakhyana (Vana Parva) of Mahabharata does not have many instances mentioned in Valmiki Ramyana (even from first 6 Kandas of Valmiki Ramayana).
That does not make those unmentioned instances, from Valmiki Ramayana, in Mahabharata interpolated. or doest it?

You may also know that there are some discrepancies between details of incidents described in Valmiki Ramayana vs. Ramopakhyan (Mahabharata). Important subject.. but irrelevant for the issue under discussion.

(5) you write…
Vaalmeeki’s aim of creating an ideal man is achieved with the coronation, hence there was no need to extend the story any further, especially by destroying the ‘idealism’ of Shri Raam..

My response…..
Valmiki was writing Itihas. We have at least one additional data point, that one writing Itihas may include things such as ethical, (religious), moral and other discussions. Valmiki has done the same.
The additional data point I am referring is Mahabharata. For example. see. Adi Parva 1:48-50 or Adi Parva 1:62-70 and so on.

To reiterate..
Valmiki was writing Itihas.. not a book with aim of (artificially) creating an image of ideal man. Anyone reading Valmiki Ramyana (and for this argument.. first 6 kandas) will have enough material that can be seen as more human (than ideal) in its pages.

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